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Over the last year I had a number of discussions - how healthcare should (or should not be) just, how people should (or should not) be penalized for bad choices, how interests of healthy people with jobs may (or may not) be more important than of those who are sick and cannot work.

Now we are facing an interesting situation - there is a potential epidemic disease that can kill a lot of (affluent) elderly people while younger ones will do mostly fine.

No high-tech treatment or bleeding edge diagnostic equipment like 10.5 Tesla MRI machines seems to make a difference - but a simple and cheap universal testing does.

However, over past years, we saw deliberate efforts to deny medical care to different groups of people. E.g., if you're a poor immigrant, you are incentivized to avoid getting subsidized healthcare (unless you're willing to risk your naturalization/permanent resident status). So no universal testing, sorry folks.

What do you think, will those conservative elderly people change their minds even as the policies they were rooting for - threaten their very lives? (And will continue to do so - COVID-19 is not the only infectious disease we are going to face.) Will they say: "Oh, now I see, when it comes to infections, universal healthcare helps everybody even if it is not just - let's implement it, it will save OUR LIVES"?

I am not holding my breath - but maybe I am wrong. What do you think?

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Date: 2020-03-10 05:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malyj_gorgan
Нє, не передумають.
Знайдуть винних деінде, та й усе.
Навіть не знаю, як заставити велику групу людей визнати, що вони помилялися.
Навіть маленьку не заставиш. Максимум, що більшість людей звикли в житті визнавати, це тактичні помилки.

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Date: 2020-03-10 06:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malyj_gorgan
Ага. А вже декомунізація не спрацювала. Може, десь в ЕстоніИ, не скажу, а у нас без варіантів.

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Date: 2020-03-10 06:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lm644
They would never believe that their own lives can possibly intersect with those who are “different,” so they do not perceive any risks for themselves.

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Date: 2020-03-10 06:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chuka_lis
ага.

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Date: 2020-03-10 09:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lm644
You really expect too much from the affluent elderly people... they will just ask for a nice white waiter, and they don’t eat organic kale, anyway! or any kind of kale... or any kind of salads...

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Date: 2020-03-10 09:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lm644
They are probably even liberal, right?

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Date: 2020-03-11 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lm644
Coastal elite detected!

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Date: 2020-03-10 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chuka_lis
не, будет "Мыши плакали, кололись, но продолжали грызть кактус", однако, возможно, некоторое время спустя, после 1й, 2, 3 эпидемии, что-то поменяется.

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